David,

You are welcome to place RefNotes into your Hardscape drawing.  In fact that would probably be best, as RefNotes will be your hardscape items.

--J

OK, so you're saying to put the RefNotes in the original hardscapes drawing. I wanted to keep those notes and call-outs out of the original drawing so that they wouldn't clutter up other drawings that would reference the same file. Should I manage that by turning off the annotation layers in the Xref?

In that case, then you are welcome to xref it into a sheet file, and keep the callouts and notes there.

You can mix and match as well, which is how it was designed.  So you can place a paver hatch in the hardscape file as a RefNote Area, but then only call it out through the xref in the sheet file.

--J

Ah, I see. Put the hatches and amenities on the original hardscapes drawing BUT put the call-outs on the new sheet.

Thanks, as always, for walking me through it. 

If I put the call-outs on a separate sheet, the Verify Callouts command won't work, right? 

David,

You're correct, Verify Callouts for refnotes won't work through an xref, because highlight also isn't possible through an xref.

-Amanda

I also see that the color doesn’t come through to the schedule—if it’s placed on a sheet file. 

If I put everything on the original hardscapes drawing—but don’t want to have Callouts on other drawings that share it as an Xref—what’s the best approach? Should I select the ANNO layers and freeze them when the hardscapes drawing is used as an Xref?

David

If you turn on colour render in the sheet file, the areas will place colour rendered in the schedule.
You can turn on the site colour layers for the amenity blocks through the layer properties in your sheet file.

Yes. You can Viewport freeze the refnote callout's layer in any viewport where you don't want to see them.

-Amanda

Hmm. I can't seem to get the colors in the schedule. Here's what I've tried:

-Regenerate the schedule

-Make a new schedule 

-Turn color off and then turn it on

In the end, it might be best to put the callouts and schedule on the hardscapes drawing instead of the sheet file. Otherwise, I can't take advantage of the Verify Callouts function. 

David,

Good point. I'll look into that with our development team.

It looks like colour render isn't triggering on when there's no colour-renderable objects in the sheet. I'll ask them to have it trigger to on if there's a schedule in the drawing.

Your current workarounds are to either place that schedule in the xref with the refnotes that you colour rendered, or stay in the sheet file and place a plant/refnote area in the sheet plan temporarily, turn on colour render, then delete it and regenerate the schedule.

-Amanda