By Nibal Ata on Sunday, 17 April 2022
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Good afternoon all,

I am trying to highlight an area of driplines, but it takes ages with no Highlighting..
like no command requested.


What is the possible reason for this??

Nibal
Nibal,
It sounds like you will need to send in your files through a tech support ticket describing exactly where this issue is happening, so we can see what might be going on. We can then assess and go from there.

How to Submit a Technical Support Ticket

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"Nibal,
I was able to highlight things just fine. I did, however, need to remove the xref before doing so. I noticed that there is a gigantic hatch that is much larger than the site, and when zoomed out, looks solid. That definitely is making things quite slow, and I think when the system is checking within the xrefs, it is taking quite a long time because of that large hatch.

Try unloading the xref first, then use the Highlight Station tool to highlight that zone. Does it work then? Any other error messages you are getting?

Jake Lott
Irrigation Specialist"



Jake,
Thank you for the help in the ticket support,

Actually yes there is a huge hatch in the soft scape(still looking for it to delete it) that affecting the work on the irrigation plan.

I did unload the softscape xref and highlight the zone.

It worked OK as I can, now, highlight the zone, but still taking long time that I don't have at the moment ... and this is getting pretty annoying..


Nibal
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Nibal,
I would agree that this would be super frustrating. In diving deeper into your plan, forgetting the xref comment all together, and focusing on the irrigation file, it is apparent that the linework being used is less than ideal. I missed this before, but clicking on any given leaf/secondary french curved/swirled area of dripline, there are hundreds if not thousands of points along that clicked polyline. Those are all points the system needs to take note of when verifying what is in that dripline area.

To compound this hang time, not only are the units of the plan set to millimeters, but your site is ~2,900 km from 0,0. So now all those InsidePoint calculations are going to drag even more being so far away.

I also ran an audit on the plan and found that CAD fixed 130 errors, which isn't a great sign, but that seemed to help speed things up slightly.

I would definitely suggest cleaning up the linework if possible. As far as things being so far away from 0,0- I was able to set a UCS with a base point close to the site, keeping the orientation the same as world, and running highlight was only about 5-10 seconds instead of minutes. Verifying the entire system still takes a good deal of time, and I don't think that will get better until the linework is cleaned up.

I hope this helps narrow down what is going on, but please reach back out if you have further questions. We are always happy to help.

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Jake,

Thank you the clarifications..

But when saying i have to clean the linework, what i should exactly do..

whenever I apply driplines for these patterns of planting, it gave me so many points on the polylines.

And am thinking if I could understand you well,
coming back to them and lessen the points if that what you meant by cleaning, it is really something I wont be able to do at the moment. My submission is supposed to be today.. I just need to finish the design.



In regard with the UCS issue, do you suggest me to do the same and set a UCS with a base point close to the site but keeping the same orientation?
and if yes, what is the best steps to do that?


Specifically in irrigation plans, do you recommend to use meters unit to millimeters ones?

Best Regards,

Nibal
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Nibal,
I understand it might be a later thing if you are under a deadline, but yes, cleaning the linework just meant try and reduce the amount of vertices that need to be seen by the program. I am unsure how the lines were created in the first place, but we typically see this level of detail when converting intricate splines into polylines.

You are welcome to give the creation of a UCS a try. Doing this just helped me use the highlight station tool so I thought I would suggest it. I know you have used our UCS tools before, but just in case, the link below will walk you through how to use New UCS. Just make sure to pick a base point on site.

Creating a UCS

As far as the millimeters vs. meters plan goes, we would typically suggest (or have more commonly seen) Units be set to meters for a plan that size. One of the reasons it is an issue when in millimeters is that the display number in mm over thousands of km is quite large, so the processing that needs to take place is just a lot of big numbers.

I hope that clarifies things a bit more, but we are happy to continue this conversation as needed.

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