Hi Everybody!
We've been doing a lot of work behind the scenes to check off a long list of wishlist requests for the RefNote Schedule! It's now at a good point, but we'd like to try something new and open it up for Beta testing for users.
August 19, 2024 Edit: This feature is now out of Beta and live, moved over to the main RefNote Schedule button in the RefNote Manager. Thank you to all those who helped test this for the 3 months that it was in Beta testing, and provided valuable feedback so that we could make sure the new schedule options were as seamless to regenerate old schedules as possible. For anybody who'd still like to provide feedback, please open a new ticket in your Land F/X Portal to describe any further tweaks you think would be beneficial, ideally with before, after, and desired examples in a DWG file or screenshot. Please understand that we're past the beta testing period and won't be making a Legacy command for this based on the feedback we got during testing, but will do everything possible to accomodate your needs for this very valuable time-saving tool!
It's been reformatted to be more like the plant schedule options, and switches to the table-only format with or without gridlines plotting.
Key Improvements:
Otherwise, it should do everything the original schedule did.
Keep in mind that with these changes, your schedule might change slightly in dimensions, but we've tried to keep it as similar as possible.
These improvements also allow Refnote Division column widths to apply to even non-plot-gridline schedules now.
Please test this out on a copy of your plans with Refnotes already in them. You can provide feedback in this Forum post, or by creating a new ticket and specifically mentioning that you're Beta testing the REFNOTESCHEDULE_NEW command. Please screenshot errors and provide the steps you took to get it. Ideally, send in the drawing that gets the error in a ticket.
How to Submit a Technical Support Ticket
Even a quick test and specific feedback, positive or constructive, will really help us make sure the eventual transition to the main RefNote Schedule tool is successful.
Thanks!
- Amanda
Edit: More new hidden schedules for beta testing! They'll be live in update version 20.60 and newer. These all rely on the above primary Refnote Schedule as a base.
refnoteschedule_new
irrigzones_new
sheetindex_new
projectlist_new
spotelevschedule_new
northeastpointschedule_new
civilsurveylegend_new
zoningschedule_new
conceptgraphicsschedule_new
detailreport_new
keynoteschedule_new
lightingschedule_new
All the straight to Excel detail reports:
detaillist_new
detailcategoriesreport_new
detailprojectfolders_new
We've been doing a lot of work behind the scenes to check off a long list of wishlist requests for the RefNote Schedule! It's now at a good point, but we'd like to try something new and open it up for Beta testing for users.
In the current update version 20.57 is a hidden command, REFNOTESCHEDULE_NEW.
Type this into the commandline, and you'll see the new interface.
August 19, 2024 Edit: This feature is now out of Beta and live, moved over to the main RefNote Schedule button in the RefNote Manager. Thank you to all those who helped test this for the 3 months that it was in Beta testing, and provided valuable feedback so that we could make sure the new schedule options were as seamless to regenerate old schedules as possible. For anybody who'd still like to provide feedback, please open a new ticket in your Land F/X Portal to describe any further tweaks you think would be beneficial, ideally with before, after, and desired examples in a DWG file or screenshot. Please understand that we're past the beta testing period and won't be making a Legacy command for this based on the feedback we got during testing, but will do everything possible to accomodate your needs for this very valuable time-saving tool!
It's been reformatted to be more like the plant schedule options, and switches to the table-only format with or without gridlines plotting.
Key Improvements:
- Symbol and Code now in separate columns
- Photo column now an option
- Lengths now have a symbol option, and it works with layer linetypes or railing blocks.
- Improvements to the alignment of cell contents, including correcting the issue with overlapping block callouts.
- MUCH better amenity block scaling, even for custom amenity blocks.
- Revised Speace below Description logic.
- New "Sort By" Division or Object option.
- Column Widths now in popout, allowing room for future improvments.
- Refnoteschedule_new with Work Areas now allows for an All Work Areas option, like plant schedules.
- Ability to Edit an existing schedule (created with REFNOTESCHEDULE_NEW - editing/regenerating old schedules with the old command is still pending.)
Otherwise, it should do everything the original schedule did.
Keep in mind that with these changes, your schedule might change slightly in dimensions, but we've tried to keep it as similar as possible.
These improvements also allow Refnote Division column widths to apply to even non-plot-gridline schedules now.
Please test this out on a copy of your plans with Refnotes already in them. You can provide feedback in this Forum post, or by creating a new ticket and specifically mentioning that you're Beta testing the REFNOTESCHEDULE_NEW command. Please screenshot errors and provide the steps you took to get it. Ideally, send in the drawing that gets the error in a ticket.
How to Submit a Technical Support Ticket
Even a quick test and specific feedback, positive or constructive, will really help us make sure the eventual transition to the main RefNote Schedule tool is successful.
Thanks!
- Amanda
Edit: More new hidden schedules for beta testing! They'll be live in update version 20.60 and newer. These all rely on the above primary Refnote Schedule as a base.
refnoteschedule_new
irrigzones_new
sheetindex_new
projectlist_new
spotelevschedule_new
northeastpointschedule_new
civilsurveylegend_new
zoningschedule_new
conceptgraphicsschedule_new
detailreport_new
keynoteschedule_new
lightingschedule_new
All the straight to Excel detail reports:
detaillist_new
detailcategoriesreport_new
detailprojectfolders_new
Brian, thanks for the additional notes. In the meantime, noted for the stair and ramp handrail, but for the tree and plant protection that actually looks like it needs the LTSCALE of that drawing to be bigger to actually show the circles, and for that layer to be assigned a thicker plotting color.
Railing can also help all of these.
The background colour is interesting, we do the same to the bloom schedule to show white bloom colours. You should be able to save a change to your LAFX-SCHEDULE table style to add a fill color to all cell types.
In the meantime, you can also make the Schedule Header text size much smaller in General preferences while we work out what we can do there. Make the headers smaller text.
-Amanda
Railing can also help all of these.
The background colour is interesting, we do the same to the bloom schedule to show white bloom colours. You should be able to save a change to your LAFX-SCHEDULE table style to add a fill color to all cell types.
In the meantime, you can also make the Schedule Header text size much smaller in General preferences while we work out what we can do there. Make the headers smaller text.
-Amanda
Joe, please submit a ticket with that drawing attached through the Portal. Link to Portal
That was a behaviour in a very early testing version but was fixed very early on. Is it still making new copies?
For the callout size, we'll need to see the drawing for more context to help troubleshoot that.
-Amanda
That was a behaviour in a very early testing version but was fixed very early on. Is it still making new copies?
For the callout size, we'll need to see the drawing for more context to help troubleshoot that.
-Amanda
Is anyone else experiencing items duplicating in the refnotes manager after generating a new schedule? We've had two projects now where creating a new schedule has created what appears to be duplicates of each item. Each duplicate is then shown in the new schedule under the same code. Deleting any single copy of a duplicate item will result in all of those same coded items being deleted from the manager. See example screenshot of the manager side by side with original schedule and new schedule.
I read above that the callouts should appear the same size as the plan but we are not seeing that yet on ver. 20.74. This is also an example of the repetitive title/header compared to the old version. This is only an issue when you run a single division schedule (which we almost always do).
I read above that the callouts should appear the same size as the plan but we are not seeing that yet on ver. 20.74. This is also an example of the repetitive title/header compared to the old version. This is only an issue when you run a single division schedule (which we almost always do).
Brian,
It's a little challenging to fully understand what you are after, as you only shared the After image. It would help if we could see the Before schedule, to see what all you are altering.
--J
It's a little challenging to fully understand what you are after, as you only shared the After image. It would help if we could see the Before schedule, to see what all you are altering.
--J
Brian, this kind of request is actually something we hope to address in a future Railing tool improvement, so keep an eye out for that! If you can provide any examples of how you'd want it to look, that would help a lot to influence that development project.
-Amanda
-Amanda
We work on a lot of trail projects and include a 10' wide white polyline on top of an aerial. We usually end up drawing the line as a LF reference note then change the width to 10' so it will show up before printing. It would be nice to assign a polyline width to a LF reference note and it show up in the schedule accordingly.
Wes,
The symbols are scaled down as necessary to fit in the column. To get them at plan size you would need to increase the width of the symbol column.
The callouts are now the same size as in the plan, which was a common request and makes sense. The new Header option for callouts allows a much cleaner schedule with less space.
Hatches now dynamically fill the entire row, which we felt is much better for consistency and looks great when including photos. You can set the Space after Description to increase the height of the narrower rows. We have no plans to go back to all hatches being the same size.
We also will not be issued a Legacy command, as the output is so similar.
—J
The symbols are scaled down as necessary to fit in the column. To get them at plan size you would need to increase the width of the symbol column.
The callouts are now the same size as in the plan, which was a common request and makes sense. The new Header option for callouts allows a much cleaner schedule with less space.
Hatches now dynamically fill the entire row, which we felt is much better for consistency and looks great when including photos. You can set the Space after Description to increase the height of the narrower rows. We have no plans to go back to all hatches being the same size.
We also will not be issued a Legacy command, as the output is so similar.
—J
I love the symbol and code have their own header now, however with this symbol column it now appears that we are unable to have the blocks at plan size? Is there an option for this and I am just missing it? Also when I generate the new schedule the code blocks are coming in much larger than they should, please see attachment. The element I am concerned with is the area hatches are no longer consistent in size when a schedule item has multiple lines within the description compared to a line time with very little description. Is there something that can be done to provide the same consistency that the original schedules had? Lastly, is there a command that we to regenerate existing schedules without updating them to the new version, similar to when the planting schedules were revised?
Thank you,
Wes
Thank you,
Wes
We've found that rounding is very subjective and best used in excel sheets with clear notes to the contractor that the quantities are rounded in the bid sheet.
Otherwise, it can be confusing that the quantity in a schedule doesn't match the properties on the objects in the drawing.
-Amanda
Otherwise, it can be confusing that the quantity in a schedule doesn't match the properties on the objects in the drawing.
-Amanda
Love the new schedule options. One more wish I have is the option for rounding areas and lengths. Maybe options to round up to nearest 5 or 10.
Jesse,
The update seems to have addressed the issue for me. Thank you!
Mark
The update seems to have addressed the issue for me. Thank you!
Mark
Hi Mark, there's no new update this morning yet. You must have installed Update 20.66 from July 30.
Update this morning did not change anything on 1 workstation, will try later on a different one to test it there.
Results same as above screenshot.
Results same as above screenshot.
- Jesse Conner
- 4 months ago
- #125
Hey Mark, Jesse with Land F/X here. This should have been fixed, and the update should have released. Could you confirm that you can see the column width adjustments?
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Mark,
This has been addressed, and will be part of the update tomorrow.
--J
This has been addressed, and will be part of the update tomorrow.
--J
Jeremiah,
Thanks for the great response. My screenshot of my column width issue is precisely the same as Kevin's above in #6745. I get a pop-out, but nothing is editable. Updates applied. No change.
Thank you,
Mark
Thanks for the great response. My screenshot of my column width issue is precisely the same as Kevin's above in #6745. I get a pop-out, but nothing is editable. Updates applied. No change.
Thank you,
Mark
Mark,
You can use the Space below Description setting to specify additional lines of row height, which will cause the area hatch to grow as well.
For the column widths, if you can post a screenshot of what it looks like, that will help us determine what is off.
--J
You can use the Space below Description setting to specify additional lines of row height, which will cause the area hatch to grow as well.
For the column widths, if you can post a screenshot of what it looks like, that will help us determine what is off.
--J
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