Nibal,
Typically all that is needed to be shown in the overall plan is the Base file for sheet reference that outlines the rest of the actual layouts. At most, I would think the mainline layout to show overall structure. If you have your Irrigation design and base files in their own respective files, it should be fairly easy to start a new Sheet Set file and xref your base and irrigation design into modelspace. From there, through the viewports, you should be able to freeze whatever you would like from the irrigation design so you are left with a nice overall reference at your 1:1000 plan. Past this, I would love to hear from others on what they have generally seen and done as well.

Jake,

You mean that I can do 2 files

one of scale 1:1000 for the overall plan
and
one of scale 1:250 for the parts plans

Am I right in my thinking?

think this way will make what I need.


I used to put the overall plan and the parts plans in the same file and then change the viewport of the overall plan to scale 1:1000.

Exactly. All your layouts for the individual areas, then another for the overall. Technically your irrigation design (working drawing) should be just that, your working drawing and nothing else. No layouts, just the design in modelspace. Your new file, the sheet set file, will be where you set all your layouts. You might be able to get away with also creating an overall layout in that sheet set file, but I would still suggest making a secondary sheet set file for the overall layout, just so you have full control over what is/is not shown, without hurting the other layouts you created.

Thank you Jake,

I have sheet set manager for the project.
I used to put the overall plan with the parts in one file in this sheet set.
first layout of this file is the overall plan then followed with the parts layout out.

in the view port of the overall plan I put the scale to 1:1000
and in the viewport of the parts layouts I put the scale 1:250

and in the overall layout I freeze what I don't want to show(text, sizes, valve callouts, and keep the heads, pipes,..
but my problem is that when I print the overall plan(The IRR. design xref is done in 1:250 scale) on A1 size sheet the heads are shown small relatively to the A1 size..

I need to show the heads and other equips in reasonable scale in the overall plan..

Nibal,
Is there a reason you need to show the heads at the overall scale? This is what each 1:250 layout is for, is it not?

Jake,

Our submissions include overall plan, then and parts.
and sometimes we are asked by the client in meetings and presentations to show the overall plan to have an idea about the irrigation design as a whole.

Sounds like your best bet then would be to make a copy of your irrigation design file and scale it up using the rescale objects option, when setting a larger scale. From there you can xref that side file (enlarged strictly for the overall layout) into your sheet set file and alter from there.

Think too that I need to try this., however I was trying to avoid the re scaling objects..

Thank you Jake